#21 28/03/2005 16:41:40

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Aprs, je ne connais pas le sujet du roman et c'est vrai que l'extrait ne nous apprend pas grand chose de ce ct l.

Eh bien, on retrouve le Mr Nancy d'American Gods, mais ce n'est pas proprement parler une suite, mme pas du tout - je ne crois pas qu'on revoit Ombre par exemple - et surtout, le ton sera beaucoup plus comique. smile Et si c'est l'image de l'extrait d'ailleurs... wink

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#22 28/03/2005 17:44:55

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Goldberry,lundi 28 mars 2005, 16:41 a crit:

Eh bien, on retrouve le Mr Nancy d'American Gods, mais ce n'est pas proprement parler une suite, mme pas du tout - je ne crois pas qu'on revoit Ombre par exemple - et surtout, le ton sera beaucoup plus comique. smile Et si c'est l'image de l'extrait d'ailleurs... wink

Ah oui tiens, je n'avais pas fait le rapprochement... rolleyes Merci pour la prcision. wink J'espre que ce roman saura quand mme se dgager d'American Gods parce que c'est le Gaiman que j'ai le moins apprci. Mais l'extrait est prometteur et si le ton est plus comique, ce n'est pas forcment pour me dplaire. smile


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#23 26/05/2005 19:55:24

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En reparlant de ce roman, vu chez Neil Gaiman... ohmy


The Anansi Boys Question of the day
posted by Neil Gaiman 5/25/2005 11:59:00 PM
The weird thing about this blog is the way that questions come in about things I keep meaning to talk about. It's been happening for four years, so you'd think I'd get used to it, but I never do. For example, this morning I wound up having a long conversation with my agent and then with my editor about making sure that people didn't think that ANANSI BOYS was a sequel to AMERICAN GODS. And this evening...

Obvious question, I suppose, but just to keep things straight, is Anansi Boys a sequel to American Gods?

So, a good and timely question. No, ANANSI BOYS isn't a sequel to AMERICAN GODS. I actually came up with the idea for ANANSI BOYS a couple of years before I started to write AMERICAN GODS, and borrowed Mr Nancy from ANANSI BOYS (which hadn't yet been written) for AMERICAN GODS. (Oddly enough, while looking at my hard drive today I found an early outline for ANANSI BOYS, and oddly, a four or five page opening couple of scenes from a ANANSI BOYS screenplay I wrote before I decided that the story would be happier in prose.) Which means that there are things you may know about Mr Nancy if you've met him already (his fondness for Karaoke, for example, or his love of Carrie) that might resonate for you in a different way in ANANSI BOYS.

I imagine it's set in the same world as AMERICAN GODS. (But then, several careful readers have pointed out that AMERICAN GODS is set in the same world as STARDUST, and the two stories don't taste anything like the same.)

The only true sequel to AMERICAN GODS so far is a novella about what Shadow did next called "The Monarch of the Glen", published in Bob Silverberg's LEGENDS II.

This is how I described ANANSI BOYS in a cover letter to the proof copies that are going out to booksellers and people:

My new novel is a scary, funny sort of story, which isnt exactly a thriller, and isnt really horror, and doesnt quite qualify as a ghost story (although it has at least one ghost in it), or a romantic comedy (although there are several romances in there, and its certainly a comedy, except for the scary bits). If you have to classify it, its probably a magical-horror-thriller-ghost-romantic-comedy-family-epic, although that leaves out the detective bits and much of the food.


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#24 26/05/2005 20:49:03

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On reconnait bien l le style Gaiman dans sa faon de rpondre aux questions...

Et la description du style de son prochain roman est le genre d'humour anglais qui me bidonne ! Merci d'tre toujours aussi frais Mr. Gaiman ! big_smile

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#25 28/05/2005 10:33:53

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If you have to classify it, its probably a magical-horror-thriller-ghost-romantic-comedy-family-epic

Eh bien, c'est simple comme classement ! mrgreen
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#26 04/06/2005 18:22:18

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Premire critique : (Toujours en anglais, dsol...)

I read this as soon as I got my hands on it, 'cos I've been waiting for a new Gaiman book for what seems like ages but really is, ooh, just over a year (if you include picture books), and rather less than six months (if you include the extended Hill House edition of American Gods, which I received just before Christmas).

Anansi Boys is not really a sequel to American Gods, although it does share a character, and is pretty obviously set in the same 'world' (where gods are real, and walk among us, and are pretty normal people really). This book, though, doesn't feel like any sort of continuation at all - it actually feels a lot more like Neverwhere. Partly that's due to the setting - mostly London with a few trips to Florida, Saint Andrews and the beginning of the world - but mostly because of the tone of the writing. American Gods was a big, dense novel, with some (interesting, but possibly not all that deep) things to say about belief and the evolution of technology. Anansi Boys is a much more gentle read. There is very little death, or torture, or war (although some nasty things do happen to Spider), and rather more comedy, romance and fun.

Fat Charlie is a rather bored Londoner, with a crappy job and a soon-to-be mother-in-law who really doesn't like him. When he returns to Florida to attend his father's funeral, he is surprised to be told that he has a brother he doesn't remember, who can be summoned by asking a spider to pass on a message. Fat Charlie then makes the mistake, while drunk, of doing so. And much hilarity and chaos ensues. Not for Fat Charlie, though, who finds that Spider is rather better at his life than he is himself. When Charlie attempts to get rid of Spider, he makes a deal with a God that he shouldn't have, and things get rather worse from then on. But everything ends happily, just the way it ought to.

There are some wonderful jokes, descriptions and one-liners in this book. I found that rather a surprise - although all of Gaiman's works have a layer of wit, and Good Omens is a fantastically funny book - because here, they are everywhere. There's a sense of whimsy that stands out (Fat Charlie's adventures with and without a lime, for example) because the book changes feel so quickly. Spider's torture is deeply unpleasant, and Grahame Coats is a very nasty piece of work (as all villains should be) - but on the other hand, Spider and Charlie's night out on the town is very funny indeed, as are most of the descriptions of Mrs Noah ("Fat Charlie wondered what Rosie's mother would usually hear in a church. Probably just cries of 'Back! Foul beast of Hell!' followed by gasps of 'Is it alive?' and a nervous enquiry as to whether anybody had remembered to bring the stakes and hammers"). Gaiman switches between weird, nasty, funny, sweet and rather horrible very adeptly, but always remembers that this is a light-hearted book. I don't want to give the impression that there is nothing to the book, just that it feels very different to any of his other works. Which is why I always look forward to the new one.

I think anybody picking up Anansi Boys hoping for more of American Gods will be surprised, but probably not disappointed - the book is too deftly strung together, and well-written, for that. Bits of it reminded me of Wodehouse (especially the slightly labyrinthine plotting, and the way in which characters keep on meeting each other by accident, normally at the worst possible time), and bits of it could come from anyone who has ever written a novel about being slightly unhappy in London, but mostly the book feels very Gaiman-ish. Hard to define, of course, but great fun. Rather nice to have another novel with a black lead, though not much is made of it, and a character called Marcus appears in the final few pages, which always makes me feel well-disposed towards a book. The change in Charlie's character is well handled - he turns from someone who is wet-but-nice into a very likeable sort-of hero - and the rest of the characters are nice when they need to be, unpleasant when called for, but pretty realistic all the time. I particularly like the idea that each of us has a theme tune, and "Evildoers beware" is a classic. There are a couple of the 'interludes' that I enjoyed so much in American Gods - here they mostly take the form of stories about/from Anansi, and again work very well as diversions from the main narrative thrust, whilst still serving to throw some light on an aspect of the plot that Gaiman wants to highlight.

Two small niggles. The charity for which Neil sold the rights to name the cruise ship ("Squeak Attack" was the result) is a good one (the Comic Book Legal Defense fund), but the name doesn't fit and the explanation is a) rubbish and b)the only patronising thing I can remember about the book. I know why the boat has that name - most people will just spot a slightly rubbish joke that stands out because of the use of one of only a couple of footnotes. And there are (to the best of my recollection) two instances where the author intrudes upon the narrative. One is at the very end of the book, during the 'what happened next' section, which is fine. The other comes half-way through the text, and stood out like a sore thumb (for me, at least). It wasn't necessary, and it seemed to me like a hangover from a previous draft (although I'm almost certainly very wrong about that). Neither are major problems - but they were the only things I could find that were wrong with the book, which otherwise I thought was utterly wonderful, and will be happily recommending, pushing, promoting and all-round loving when it comes out.

In January, I get the (expensive but lovely) Hill House edition, which will have as-yet-undisclosed extras. I look forward to re-reading it then.

I read a proof, which I was very lucky to get hold of. The first will probably start appearing on eBay soon, and will go for stupid amounts of money, but I'm hanging on to mine. I read this on the train and at home, 26/05/05 to 30/05/05. Published in Hardback in September, ISBN: 0755305078.

Il s'agit d'une copie non dfinitive, et non corrige, mais officielle tout de mme. wink Le bonhomme n'a pas cambriol la demeure de Gaiman pour lui voler son manuscrit. wink


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#27 07/08/2005 11:48:03

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Un lien vers le premier chapitre... smile
Dans peine un mois maintenant, la sortie, pour la VO bien sr.

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#28 07/08/2005 16:16:08

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Comme je le disais dans mon premier message pour ce sujet, je suis impatient de dcouvrir ce nouveau roman de Gaiman, d'autant plus que j'avais vraiment ador American Gods smile Par contre je vais attendre la traduction franaise, je ne me sens pas encore prt pour attaquer un tel livre en version originale...

En tout cas j'aime beaucoup la bannire, avec le "God is dead... Meet the kids" cool tongue


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#29 07/08/2005 18:33:36

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Merci pour le lien wink

Je me tate pour ce roman, certes c'est un Gaiman, mais vu que j'ai apprci American God sans plus, je verrais selon l'humeur du moment smile


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#30 17/08/2005 10:54:38

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Gillossen,samedi 12 mars 2005, 10:43 a crit:

Plutt cocasse... smile

arrow http://www.elbakin.net/fantasy/news/2005/mars.htm#12

En cho la premire news du sujet, mme si Gaiman n'est plus directement concern... unsure


Des noms de personnages de futurs romans vendus sur internet

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Combien tes-vous prt payer pour tre immortalis en tant que zombie dans un roman de Stephen King ou sous les traits d'un "type bien" dans un thriller de John Grisham ? King et Grisham font partie des 16 auteurs qui vendent aux enchres sur internet le nom d'un de leurs futurs personnages, pour dfendre la libert d'information et d'expression.
Les dtails sur les auteurs concerns ont t mis en ligne sur le site eBay et les enchres auront lieu entre le 1er et le 25 septembre, annonce mardi le First Amendment Project, une association californienne qui dfend la libert d'information et d'expression.
Stephen King prcise qu'il offre le nom d'un personnage de "CELL", un roman qui doit tre publi en 2006 ou 2007.
"L'acheteur doit savoir que 'CELL' est une oeuvre violente, avec des zombies activs par un mauvais signal de tlphone portable qui dtruit le cerveau humain", ajoute King.
"Comme du whisky bon march, c'est trs mauvais et extrmement satisfaisant", dtaille-t-il sur son site internet, ajoutant que si l'acheteur veut que son personnage meure, il doit s'agir d'un nom de femme".
David Greene, membre de First Amendment Project, qui fournit une assistance lgale dans des affaires de libert d'expression, affirme que les fans ont dj montr un vif intrt pour l'opration.
"Je dois tre prudent dans ma prvision mais nous pensons rcolter entre 40.000 et 50.000 dollars grce ces 16 auteurs", ajoute Greene.
Cette vente au enchre n'est pas sans prcdent: l'crivain de fiction religieuse Karen Kingsbury a rcolt de la sorte prs de 100.000 dollars pour des oeuvres de bienfaisance ces dernires annes dans diffrentes ventes.
Sur ebay (http://www.ebay.com/fap, legal), John Grisham a promis que le personnage dont il vend le nom sera dpeint sous "un jour favorable" dans son prochain roman.

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#31 25/08/2005 14:29:30

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#32 26/08/2005 10:06:37

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En tous cas, le conteur fait de gros efforts de prononciation, et parle plutt lentement, c'est apprciable. wink
J'ai l'avantage de connatre le contexte d'American Gods, mais je pense avoir finalement compris pas mal de choses, et c'est une initiative sympathique . smile

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Mais je pense que je prfrerais quand mme le roman sur papier. wink (Et en VF tongue )

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#33 29/08/2005 18:01:24

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Goldberry,vendredi 26 aot 2005, 10:06 a crit:

En tous cas, le conteur fait de gros efforts de prononciation, et parle plutt lentement, c'est apprciable. wink

Absolument smile Mais mme malgr cette qualit, je me suis rendu compte que je prfrais lire par moi-mme wink Alors merci quand mme beaucoup pour le lien, mais je vais attendre patiemment le livre "en chair et en os" tongue


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#34 03/09/2005 13:51:39

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C'est trs bte, et a n'a aucun rapport direct avec ce roman, mais Neil Gaiman a dcouvert une Tomate Satanique dans son jardin... mrgreen

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Trs utile les blogs, dcidment... wink


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#35 05/09/2005 16:10:04

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En tous cas, je comprends que Gaiman ne veuille pas la vendre aux enchres, mme pour une oeuvre de charit, la tomate arriverait dans quel tat... huh tongue (cf son billet du jour)

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#36 06/09/2005 09:16:47

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Non mais l, il faut qu'il arrte, avec sa "Satanic Salsa" ! mrgreen Si a continue, a va devenir le sujet de son prochain roman... tongue

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#37 05/10/2005 09:54:31

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Gillossen,mardi 06 septembre 2005, 09:16 a crit:

Allez, J-14 pour Anansi Boys !

Reu ! big_smile
Sacr Neil, quelle photo encore en 4eme de couverture... mrgreen
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#38 07/10/2005 09:17:24

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Et le roman a dmarr en n1 sur la liste du New York Times Bestsellers... blink
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#39 07/10/2005 18:12:30

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Je l'attends galement celui l j'adore son criture trs limpide smile

Sinon j'aimerais savoir ce que vous en pensez:

I imagine it's set in the same world as AMERICAN GODS. (But then, several careful readers have pointed out that AMERICAN GODS is set in the same world as STARDUST, and the two stories don't taste anything like the same.)

Cette phrase m'a intrigue et j'aimerais savoir si parmi vous d'autres pensent que Stardust et American Gods se deroulent dans le meme monde.

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#40 08/10/2005 14:42:54

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Perso, aussi "careful" que soient les "readers", je me demande bien o ils sont alls chercher a. whistling
Parti comme a, on peut rattacher Stardust tout ou rien. rolleyes
Enfin, toujours est-il que, concernant Anansi Boys, puisque c'est tout de mme le sujet principal de ce topic, wink c'est clairement une "suite".
Je n'ai eu le temps que de lire deux ou trois chapitres, et il faudra peut-tre attendre le week-end prochain pour la critique, mais Gaiman est en tous cas au mieux de sa forme ct humour pince-sans-rire. smile


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